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    I don't know if it was mentioned, but did anyone else catch the Seinfeld reference? Hugo said he had a meeting with "The Human Fund," the fake charity George made up in the Festivus episode. Funny thing, that episode is on right now on TBS!

    The Human Fund. Money for People.


    EDIT: Oops, I'm a boob. There's a whole thread devoted to this already.
    Last edited by Thin Hurley; 04-15-2010 at 12:54 AM. Reason: I'm a boob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Smith View Post
    I'm with you on that. I believe the Desmond that awoke after the generator experiment/test IS the alt Desmond's consciousness. I know many people are assuming the kidnapped Desmond went to the alt, but rather I think the alt went to the island. Furthermore, either the consciousnesses have merged, or the kidnapped Desmond consciousness is erased/masked. And as his consciousness bounces from the alt to the island, I believe the opposite Desmond "body" is experiencing blackouts ... and vice-versa. If I'm right, then Sayid is going to withness Desmond passing out, because his consciousness goes back to the stadium again.
    When island Des reawakens, he is different, calm and accepting towards Whitmore as if it's AR Des. However, he's still island Des or in tune with island Des, otherwise he wouldn't know who John Locke is (and I think there were a few other quips that only original Des would know). So I think this could mean original Des flashed to AR and back, AR Des replaced island Des when he reawoke and the two Des consciousnesses merged, or AR Des replaced island Des and is just playing along (but then he wouldn't know Locke, so it's probably OR Des or both combined).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlajla View Post
    Love it!! I had to look at that a few times before i even saw the typo!!!
    ditto. I never even saw it. wow.

    just thinking, what does Eloise know?!!!! In any world, it seems like she has some major knowledge of things, of the big picture, of what is and isn't supposed to happen. In OR, she basically makes Des follow choices similar to what he originally did. (which, if she was completely right, was unnecessary, because everything would course correct itself) steering Des to the island and to pushing the button, the one significant thing she says he'll ever do.

    In the AR, she's fine with Des, until he starts inquiring about Penny. He's not supposed to know about her (or know about her yet).

    Is the point that Des IS capable of changing how things normally play out and it's Eloise's job to try to get him not to? I think I heard TPTB describe Eloise as "time police".

    The AR world also exposed a lot of underlying questions about Charles Widmore, Eloise Hawking, and Daniel Faraday. (Penny Widmore, right?) What was the relationship between Charles and Eloise, why the different last names, why did Widmore hide that he was Daniel's father and so on? And in the OR, they're one big slightly happier family. Here, Daniel's allowed freedom to pursue his passion. But if Daniel is a Widmore, then this Penny isn't? hmmmmm Also, did Daniel Faraday know Penny was his half sister in the original timeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostfan2009 View Post
    Oh yes, for instance, she knows that Desmond is Dan's constant!!! Good catch with her having dead Daniel's notebook. Which means this is WHY Desmond is Widmore's right hand man, but was not allowed into the inner family circle. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. She has been keeping him at arm's length so that he couldn't get close to Daniel.

    Wouldn't it be great if AR Daniel found OR Daniel's notebook in his mom's possession?
    This means that Widmore and Eloise (and Chang and Roger) actually know both timelines, they know two totally separate Losties. Assuming that it's the same Eloise (etc.) that went from the OR to the AR with the explosion.

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